Question: Need help with "Sort" tool
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4.0 years ago by
hkhoja • 0
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hkhoja • 0 wrote:

 

Hi Can this tool available on Galaxy be used to sort a sam file before converting to bam file?  Should the default settings be used for that or do i need to identify the columns? Thank you

 

 

 


 

Tool name: Sort
Tool version: 1.0.3
Tool ID: sort1

 

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ADD COMMENT • link • modified 4.0 years ago • written 4.0 years ago by hkhoja • 0

You can use "sort" for this, but you need to know exactly what you want to archive. Do you want to sort by coordinate or read name?

ADD REPLY • link written 4.0 years ago by Bjoern Gruening ♦ 5.1k
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Jennifer Hillman Jackson ♦ 25k wrote:

Hello,

Check out these published workflows for some ideas about how to use it. These sort in a way that is best for the RNA-seq tools in the Tuxedo suite (found on the public Main server http://usegalaxy.org) or MACS. But you can import and edit any way that you'd like. You can start with a SAM or BAM file, and preserve headers, as some of these do.

https://usegalaxy.org/u/jen-bx-galaxy-edu/w/sort-bam-inc-headers

https://usegalaxy.org/u/jen-bx-galaxy-edu/w/sort-bam-for-peak-calling-macs-tool

https://usegalaxy.org/u/jeremy/w/sort-sam-file-for-cufflinks

 

Hope this helps, Jen, Galaxy team

ADD COMMENT • link written 4.0 years ago by Jennifer Hillman Jackson ♦ 25k

I have looked at these work flows and as far as i can see that using the alphabetical  sorting of column 3  (RNAME) will place all the unmapped sequences with '*' at the top of the list.  

Also won't chromosomes named  1, 3, 10, 11 be ordered 1, 10 , 11, 3?

Won't all of this cause problems for programs like 'Indel Realigner '.

Isn' there an easy way to go from a BWA>sam file to a sorted bam, using the tools on use https://usegalaxy.org/

Thanks Guy

 

 

 

 

ADD REPLY • link modified 3.8 years ago • written 3.8 years ago by Guy Reeves • 1.0k
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Hello, The workflows are examples for RNA-seq pipelines. The Sort tool itself has many options for different types of sorting by fields. If you are not sure how each works, just run a small file through. For GATK, you will want to the sort order to be the same as the reference genome (which itself needs to be ordered "GATK style = 1,2,3,....X,Y,M"): try the tool "Picard: Reorder SAM/BAM". If you would like to review the latest set of tools we are building up (including more sorting tools) please see our test server: http://test.galaxyproject.org/ . The Tool Shed also has other sorting tools available for a local/cloud Galaxy: http://usegalaxy.org/toolshed

We really do test on the Test server, so if you run into a problem with a tool, sharing it as a bug report would be great. Just note that some tools are not fully set up on Test (this changes daily) and quotas are small - this is a server to experiment on.

Thanks, Jen, Galaxy team

ADD REPLY • link written 3.8 years ago by Jennifer Hillman Jackson ♦ 25k

Hi Jen 

to get files onto http://test.galaxyproject.org/  is there way to transfer 1 or 2   easily from https://usegalaxy.org/  without having to FTP them?

Thanks

ADD REPLY • link written 3.8 years ago by Guy Reeves • 1.0k
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4.0 years ago by
hkhoja • 0
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hkhoja • 0 wrote:

Thank you Bjoern and Jennifer for your input. to explain further, I needed to sort the bam file so that it could be used for a few of the picard analysis tools. IGV also requires sorted bam files. I was not sure if the sort tool on galaxy was the correct one to use since my data is already there.  In the past I have used the sort command in IGVTools but I am not sure if that sorts by coordinates or reads. 

Thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

ADD COMMENT • link written 4.0 years ago by hkhoja • 0

No problem, glad that helped! Can you please mark the Jennifer's answer as correct and vote it up. This will help other with similar problems.

ADD REPLY • link written 4.0 years ago by Bjoern Gruening ♦ 5.1k
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